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SamJ
12-19-2007, 06:32 PM
Hudson plant near the end of WWII...:cool:

stateline
12-19-2007, 09:10 PM
All-Right !!! are they building Hudson jets ??

Browniepetersen
12-19-2007, 09:25 PM
Love everything about that photo. It is great!!! By the way, for the fans of modern air war birds... We (USA) did not have a jet war plane ready for combat in WWII. Our first combat jet fighters saw action in Korea. With that said, we must have someone in our Forum that can identify the plane being built? The Air Force was flying F-86's and F-100's when I joined up.

BJ__TN
12-19-2007, 09:57 PM
Didn't HUDSON do some work on a bomber? Looks like a rear gunner's pod to me. I'm not old enough to remember, since I arrived just as Korean war started. I do like the HUDSON shirt though!
Bob

stateline
12-19-2007, 10:27 PM
Love everything about that photo. It is great!!! By the way, for the fans of modern air war birds... We (USA) did not have a jet war plane ready for combat in WWII. Our first combat jet fighters saw action in Korea. With that said, we must have someone in our Forum that can identify the plane being built? The Air Force was flying F-86's and F-100's when I joined up.

Hudson jets - my attempt at a little humor , Im not that young!!

mars55
12-19-2007, 11:09 PM
Well, there was one Hudson built during World War II. The Lockheed Hudson light bomber and coastal reconnaissance aircraft. It was mainly used by the British. It was used in small numbers by the U.S. Navy as the PBO and by the U.S. Air Force as the A28 and A29.

http://www.classiccar.com/files/Hudson_Bomber.jpg

PaceRacer50
12-20-2007, 04:46 AM
I believe its the tail gunner's section for the Mighty B-29 SuperFortress,
My Dad's bomber during the war.
PaceRacer50

46HudsonPU
12-20-2007, 05:43 AM
Well, they put the 'right' person in the foreground, wearing the 'right' t-shirt... Looks like she may have been the only person wearing one -

Gotta love those 'bumpy' Hudson logos... :eek: :rolleyes: :D

SamJ
12-20-2007, 08:28 AM
Hudson built some components of the P-38 Lightning during the War. There is some info about this in the May/June 2007 issue of WTN. However, my understanding is that they only built wing sections. :cool:

46HudsonPU
12-20-2007, 08:59 AM
Hudson built some components of the P-38 Lightning during the War. There is some info about this in the May/June 2007 issue of WTN. However, my understanding is that they only built wing sections. :cool:Went back and checked the photos - They still don't look like 'wings' to me (and I'm not talking about the 'bumps'... LOL!).

Could it just be a 'nice' coincidence that she happened to be wearing that t-shirt when the photo was taken?

SamJ
12-20-2007, 09:03 AM
Went back and checked the photos - They still don't look like 'wings' to me (and I'm not talking about the 'bumps'... LOL!).

Could it just be a 'nice' coincidence that she happened to be wearing that t-shirt when the photo was taken?

This is a Hudson Factory Photo, Rick.

SamJ
12-20-2007, 11:33 AM
A lot of Hudson's war production history is still unclear, although Butler covers some of it in his book. For example, the Oerlikon factory was top-secret, with almost no know surviving records. Some light was shed by an employee, story in a recent WTN. I believe this photo is the tail section (gunner's nacelle) for a Martin Maurauder, but I could be wrong...I often am. :cool:

hoopity
12-20-2007, 03:13 PM
Ya, I noticed the t-shirts too. And all them little tits sticking out. Metal must have been rivited? Wonder about them rivits...:pV:p

Geoff C., N.Z.
12-20-2007, 06:01 PM
Dare I say it - I'd like to get my hands on one of those shirts!

mars55
12-20-2007, 07:51 PM
A lot of Hudson's war production history is still unclear, although Butler covers some of it in his book. For example, the Oerlikon factory was top-secret, with almost no know surviving records. Some light was shed by an employee, story in a recent WTN. I believe this photo is the tail section (gunner's nacelle) for a Martin Maurauder, but I could be wrong...I often am. :cool:

I believe SamJ is right. Check out this photo of a B-26 Maurauder.

http://www.classiccar.com/files/b26toff.jpg

SamJ
12-20-2007, 08:02 PM
There's no doubt that Hudson built more parts for the B-26 Maurader than any other aircraft and I think that photo pretty much settles the origin of the factory photo. Thanks for posting it, Mars55! :cool:

SamJ
12-20-2007, 08:19 PM
This is what my father flew during the war...a Consolidated PBY5 Catalina. He joined the RCAF in 1939 (when Canada went to war), left Canada at the end of January, 1940, and did not set foot in North America again for six years! :cool:

TwinH
12-20-2007, 11:12 PM
Good call SamJ on the B26. A true Hot Rod bomber. I'm reposting this because
after taking all the time to reply,I tried to post and it somehow logs me out
and I lose everything. Very Frustating!:mad:

Anyhow my neighbor has the worlds largest private aircraft collection and
well worth the time to check it out if your ever in central Fl.
www.fantasyofflight.com

B26(Marauder) tail:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/Ramblur/roarNsoar07/roar-n-soar07078.jpg

the rest:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/Ramblur/roarNsoar07/roar-n-soar07067.jpg

PBY:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/Ramblur/roarNsoar07/roar-n-soar07ll161.jpg

and a link to some more pics I took last month:
http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/Ramblur/roarNsoar07/?start=0

TwinH
12-20-2007, 11:31 PM
The B26 pics I posted above show an early model B26 with a different tail
gunner configuration. The pic that Mars55 posted is a later model and
sure looks to be the same as the factory photo.
Here is a short history on the B26 from Kermits website.
http://fantasyofflight.com/aircraftpages/b26.htm

BTW,I took my twin-H 49 Commodore to the event in these pics and recieved
2nd place peoples choice with my driver against quite a few trailered
showpieces. Mostly Porsches,Jaguars,and BMW's. Go figure...;)

denverslim
12-21-2007, 06:43 AM
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Dare I say it - I'd like to get my hands on one of those shirts!

Ya gotta realize. She's somebodies great grandma now if she's alive at all. She's say 25 at the time of the photo...say in 1944....adds up to 'bout 88 years old.
Might not still want to...Lol.

46HudsonPU
12-21-2007, 08:32 AM
Ya gotta realize. She's somebodies great grandma now if she's alive at all. She's say 25 at the time of the photo...say in 1944....adds up to 'bout 88 years old.
Might not still want to...Lol.
Aww shucks! You had to toss reality in there... :( :rolleyes:

Browniepetersen
12-21-2007, 09:40 AM
Who cares that she might be eighty. She sure does look good in that photo.
This is a good place for me to try to pop in a photo with Sams directions in hand. Old dog, new tricks...

www.classiccar.com/files/Hudson Park City by Spit Fire.jpg

James P.
12-21-2007, 03:05 PM
I'm sorry, but I must be somewhat naive on this subject. I've always heard that the Lockheed "Hudson Bomber" was named for Hudson Motors wartime effort. Even a fellow that I recently chatted with at the local library (he's a reference librarian there) mentioned the Hudson Bomber after I told him that I had a Hudson. He didn't know much about Hudson cars, but he had a great interest in vintage war planes and said that the plane was named for the car company. You can do a Google search of the Hudson Bomber and come up with quite a bit. I'm afraid that I just don't have the time right now. Here's a link to a video on You Tube about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWQYuymGZ8

SamJ
12-21-2007, 04:01 PM
I'm sorry, but I must be somewhat naive on this subject. I've always heard that the Lockheed "Hudson Bomber" was named for Hudson Motors wartime effort. Even a fellow that I recently chatted with at the local library (he's a reference librarian there) mentioned the Hudson Bomber after I told him that I had a Hudson. He didn't know much about Hudson cars, but he had a great interest in vintage war planes and said that the plane was named for the car company. You can do a Google search of the Hudson Bomber and come up with quite a bit. I'm afraid that I just don't have the time right now. Here's a link to a video on You Tube about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWQYuymGZ8

Unfortunately for myth and legend, Hudson Motors had nothing to do with the Hudson bomber. It was a Lockheed Super Electra converted to British Military specs and called the B14L. The RAF (Royal Air Force) named it the Hudson bomber. It was used by the RAF and RCAF in Costal Command. My father served in Costal Command flying the PBY 5 Catalina. His sister squadron used some Hudsons for reconnisance.The only Lockheed aircraft for which Hudson Motors built parts (as far as anybody knows) was the P-38 Lightning. :cool:

ESSX28-1
12-21-2007, 06:09 PM
This is what my father flew during the war...a Consolidated PBY5 Catalina. He joined the RCAF in 1939 (when Canada went to war), left Canada at the end of January, 1940, and did not set foot in North America again for six years! :cool:

I went up in one of these (Catalina) earlier this year, reputedly the last one in the world with a passenger licence still flying. Pilot said before coming to NZ it had been flying passengers/tourists up various African river river but after a couple of bullets through the wing the owner gave that plan away & bought it to NZ.
It reminds me of the bumble bee - theoretically unable to fly yet it does, slowly & somewhat majestically. :):)
PM me for photos if interested.

SamJ
12-21-2007, 06:51 PM
Sorry to drag out this thread, but this foe toe clearly shows the rear nacelle the Hudson ladies were building. The sharp metal point hasn't been added, and you can see where it would attach in the Hudson Factory photo. :rolleyes:

James P.
12-22-2007, 12:03 AM
My recollection of the story (and, yes, I admit it may be nothing but story) was that much of the fuslage was built by Hudson and then shipped to Lockheed. But Sam, I know how myths do go on and on so you may well be right. Well, if nothing else, we know that Hudson did build the Hall-Scott Invader engine, don't we?

Jimalberta
12-22-2007, 11:31 PM
I took some pictures of a Hudson Bomber last summer. Its on display at the air museum in Gander, Newfoundland.