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PaceRacer50
01-27-2009, 05:22 AM
Guys,
while over ar the Dougs saturday we drug out the three factory crash repair frame panels for pictures. these were NOS with no flaws at all, in fact two of these still had the factory TAGS still attached but were too old to read any numbers. While dirty from setting around for 50+ years they still had the factory brown primmer on them!
The ones Doug has consist of the right and left outer side frame rails that run from the front cowl area to just past the kick-up at the rear tires. The other is the center rear outer section below the trunk that runs from the left side to the right side. the center two bumper brackets would weld to this piece.
Working with sheetmetal for 20+ years these would not be difficult to reproduce but a special press tool & die would be needed to form the rear of
the side frame rails becasue of the compound bends.
I do have pictures but can't post them here without a site to host them. If someone would like to host these email me and I will send the pictures.
These would be something that many of us believe that one of the larger chapters should reproduce to earn extra income for their chapter. Lets face it many of these stepdown have rust of some kind in these three areas. Even my 50 Pacemaker from Oklahoma had rust in the right and left side frame rails.
If a chapter wants to step up and take a look at this contact me.
thanks,
PaceRacer50
Aaron D. IL
01-27-2009, 11:32 AM
One chapter might not have the budget to do an initial repro batch but perhaps a few can join together to do it. Ideally you'd do a run of at least 100 or so to get the economies of scale and the price of each individual one down.
rambos_ride
01-27-2009, 12:33 PM
Guys,
while over ar the Dougs saturday we drug out the three factory crash repair frame panels for pictures. these were NOS with no flaws at all, in fact two of these still had the factory TAGS still attached but were too old to read any numbers. While dirty from setting around for 50+ years they still had the factory brown primmer on them!
The ones Doug has consist of the right and left outer side frame rails that run from the front cowl area to just past the kick-up at the rear tires. The other is the center rear outer section below the trunk that runs from the left side to the right side. the center two bumper brackets would weld to this piece.
Working with sheetmetal for 20+ years these would not be difficult to reproduce but a special press tool & die would be needed to form the rear of
the side frame rails becasue of the compound bends.
I do have pictures but can't post them here without a site to host them. If someone would like to host these email me and I will send the pictures.
These would be something that many of us believe that one of the larger chapters should reproduce to earn extra income for their chapter. Lets face it many of these stepdown have rust of some kind in these three areas. Even my 50 Pacemaker from Oklahoma had rust in the right and left side frame rails.
If a chapter wants to step up and take a look at this contact me.
thanks,
PaceRacer50
I can host the pictures for you send them to dan@ypfs.com
Ken U-Tx
01-27-2009, 04:31 PM
You don't need a web host to upload photos from your camera, or computer to this Forum. When you open the "Reply to Thread" box to type your message, on the top tool bar, next to the smilies icon, is the paperclip icon for attachments. Right click the paperclip icon, and then right click " Manage Attachments". This opens a window , at the top of that window, it has the option to upload files from your computer, click on "browse", and select the .jpg file from the files on your computer, and click upload. Make sure the files are under 97.7Kb for jpeg files, if they are bigger you may need to downsize them using whatever photo editor you may have on your computer. I have downloaded photos directly from my camera to my computer, edited them for file size, then uploaded them directly on the Forum. It gets pretty easy after you've done it a few times. Kenneth
Jon B
01-27-2009, 04:41 PM
We also have the Hudson Photo Album Site at http://hudsonpix.multiply.com/ . You can group all your pictures together in one "album" here. You have to register first but that's not a big deal.
You can also post photos at the Photo Gallery here at Classiccar by simply clicking the appropriate link at the top of this page.
Both of these will give you the ability to post something larger than 97.7kb, if you wish.
Heart Of Texas
01-27-2009, 08:33 PM
Guys,
while over ar the Dougs saturday we drug out the three factory crash repair frame panels for pictures. these were NOS with no flaws at all, in fact two of these still had the factory TAGS still attached but were too old to read any numbers. While dirty from setting around for 50+ years they still had the factory brown primmer on them!
The ones Doug has consist of the right and left outer side frame rails that run from the front cowl area to just past the kick-up at the rear tires. The other is the center rear outer section below the trunk that runs from the left side to the right side. the center two bumper brackets would weld to this piece.
Working with sheetmetal for 20+ years these would not be difficult to reproduce but a special press tool & die would be needed to form the rear of
the side frame rails becasue of the compound bends.
I do have pictures but can't post them here without a site to host them. If someone would like to host these email me and I will send the pictures.
These would be something that many of us believe that one of the larger chapters should reproduce to earn extra income for their chapter. Lets face it many of these stepdown have rust of some kind in these three areas. Even my 50 Pacemaker from Oklahoma had rust in the right and left side frame rails.
If a chapter wants to step up and take a look at this contact me.
thanks,
PaceRacer50
Pictures of the frame repair pieces
http://hudsonrestoration1948-54.com/images/stepdown_crash_framerails1.jpg
http://hudsonrestoration1948-54.com/images/stepdown_crash_framerails3.jpg
http://hudsonrestoration1948-54.com/images/stepdown_crash_framerails4.jpg
http://hudsonrestoration1948-54.com/images/stepdown_crash_framerails2.jpg
RL Chilton
01-27-2009, 09:18 PM
Man, that would be nice to reproduce these, along with the rear perimeter frame members. We'd probably save alot more Hudsons if it were such an easy fix, comparatively speaking.
I like this new posting format! You can now actually reference back to the thread. Most helpful.:D
DaveFury
01-27-2009, 10:39 PM
Wow! What a find!
51hornetA
01-28-2009, 01:32 AM
Ok where is Bentmetal we need to get these to him and get them replicated. I will take the first three sets for my parts shelf. I know Russ will take 10-20 sets so we are good for the first run.
rambos_ride
01-28-2009, 01:38 AM
MORE - we need more NOS parts!
Are these slated for a rebuild?
They really need to be digitized intially - then worry about getting a production run.
RL Chilton
01-28-2009, 06:36 PM
MORE - we need more NOS parts!
Are these slated for a rebuild?
They really need to be digitized intially - then worry about getting a production run.
I think that's exactly right. We need to get these scanned and into the computer. Then, even without computer-assisted equipment, the specs would all be at your finger-tips.
I don't know about 10-20 sets, but I'd sure take 3.
bent metal
01-28-2009, 06:52 PM
How does he find someone in his area to digitize them? And why is this thread so wide? I can only see half of it at a time.
bent metal
01-28-2009, 06:59 PM
Also, this looks like it's the outside of the frame box. You would still need the inside, more than likely both pieces would be rusted out in the bottom. Although the inside is just an "L" shape, maybe you could just wing it on the inside? He's for sure got the tricky piece needed for the pattern. ...Just thinking out loud.
RL Chilton
01-28-2009, 07:05 PM
Also, this looks like it's the outside of the frame box. You would still need the inside, more than likely both pieces would be rusted out in the bottom. Although the inside is just an "L" shape, maybe you could just wing it on the inside? He's for sure got the tricky piece needed for the pattern. ...Just thinking out loud.
The inside would definately be easier, although I'm sure there were originally crash repair panels for these pieces as well. For that matter, NOS doors, quarters, hoods, decklids and fenders are still out there as well, as well as skins only for doors, as we now know.
The thread is so wide on pg. 1 due to the pictures that Dan posted. They are LARGE, so the thread widens to accomodate the pics.
Heart Of Texas
01-28-2009, 10:37 PM
The inside would definately be easier, although I'm sure there were originally crash repair panels for these pieces as well. For that matter, NOS doors, quarters, hoods, decklids and fenders are still out there as well, as well as skins only for doors, as we now know.
The thread is so wide on pg. 1 due to the pictures that Dan posted. They are LARGE, so the thread widens to accomodate the pics.
Actually they are on my server... and I did not resize them so the folks who want to down load get the benefit of the full image fidelity can do so.
Laser scanning of a part can usually be accomplished by most large sheet metal forming houses that do custom short runs. The fact that there are so many automotive and truck slow downs and shutdowns... the cost of this should be very reasonable as well as getting interest to do short runs. Now is the time to look into finding the slow metal forming houses... they are looking for work. I recently had a fellow cold call me ... but, I do make those types of procurement decisions. The caller was looking for any kind of metal forming work. That caller was in the pacific NW and my work is all located in Texas. So, this contact reinforces my theory ... now is the time to use the shops that are idle to do this custom work....
Good Luck to those who will explore this task. :)
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