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rambos_ride
01-27-2005, 10:54 PM
Has anyone got information or details on putting an air ride suspension on a stepdown model?
I have a 49 Commodore I would like to "spank" to the ground while parked but get the ride height up enough that I don't have to worry about scraping the bottom of the car off!
Thanks in advance
rambos_ride
http://www.49c8.com
51hornetA
01-27-2005, 11:08 PM
I know that Fat Man Fabrications build a frame stub for a Hudson to install an air ride. You basically have to cut out your existing front frame stub and weld in their custom job. They list this setup for 40-53 Hudsons and the basic frame kit is $749 then you need to add the suspension kit which is about $1600-2500. They say this will get you a 3-5 inch drop and they include the mounts for the bumpers and sheet metal.This is only the front end.
The back end is going to be either you custom building plates and mounting gear or going with a new rear end with the mounts already on. Either way its going to take a lot of labor and money. But in the end you will have a new air ride and disc brakes.
Check out Fat Man at www.fatmanfab.com
Grumpy
01-29-2005, 07:40 AM
Agree with 51HornetA.
In most cases, it is pretty expensive to do a reconfiguration/re-build of the suspension on any vehicle. Choices are very, very important going into this, and unless you know what you are doing, it can get extremely 'messy', to the point of turning a classic vehicle into a pile of parts or scrap metal.
If are seriously considering it, give fatmanfab.com a call. They are more than willing to talk about it, and they give advise that is very knowledgeable, based upon extensive experience.
In conjunction with fatmanfab.com, look into webrodder.com. They have extensive tech articles and forums on this type of subject. Here is one that directly refers to modifying the front suspension of a stepdown Hudson, with the suspension you are considering -
http://www.webrodder.com/article.php?AID=62&SID=16
http://www.webrodder.com/article.php?AID=63&SID=16
bill a
01-29-2005, 10:51 PM
Come Out To La, Cal And Talk To All The Mexican Low Riders, They Know How To Screw Up A Good Car. My 49 Comm Rides Just Fine, As Engineered. Bill Albright, So Cal
SRCraftsman2
01-30-2005, 07:20 AM
Grumpy
Do you post to Contractor Talk also?
Grumpy
01-30-2005, 09:00 AM
Grumpy
Do you post to Contractor Talk also?
Sorry, no. Must be another "Grumpy" person... Understand that there are a lot of us around... :)
I am not a contractor, and don't do this type of work. In fact, if I decide to do it, I would probably find someone who was very qualified & had the appropriate equipment.
Have an older Hudson, with major suspension problems. With the extent of repairs & replacements necessary to both the suspension & the frame, I am at a point this actually something I am considering, with the possible exception that I am not looking to go to the extreme of airbags - I would probably go with - carrera 'coilovers'.
I also somewhat agree with Bill A., concerning that 'special' cateogory of stuff called 'low riders'. I can't seem to "get into" the flames, murals, etc., and other "fluff" that they put on (or in) them either. But, if they want to throw their money and time into something like that, 'let em'.
I am not a advocate of "Keeping it Hudson"... I am an advocate of "Keep it alive & on the road". The only way to do that (and make it so it will be used & driven) is to make it what you want it to be, for the purpose you plan or want to use it for. If that means suspension upgrades, engine, transmission, or rear-end changes, so be it. If you want 'air', power steering, a nice stereo, or even GPS navigation - do it!
By the way - Here is a site that provides 'feedback' concerning businesses/products/service/support - Pretty interesting reading & informative - Nice information to base your decisions upon -
http://hotrodders.com/reviews.html
51hornetA
01-30-2005, 06:02 PM
What I would like to find is someone who offers an upgrade kit that bolts on to the existing frame. I would like to see A-frames, control arms, sway bars, new springs and a upgrade for the steering to change it to rack and pinion. And new spindles so I can mount any type of disc I want.
The Hudson suspension geometry was excellent and the handling even with original parts is outstanding. I would like a kit that allows me to upgrade the suspension components without having to weld in a new frame stub.
rambos_ride
02-01-2005, 10:04 PM
Hi All - Thanks for the feedback so far on the air ride for stepdowns
The Fatman implementation looks nice but a whole-loto-work to do - more than I wanted to do for this stage1 of this build.
I'm not really a fan of "low riders" or "car jumping" contests - that was never my intent to take the Hudson to that level. I just thought If I have to get newer parts that the air ride would give me some extra flexibility with ride height or sitting height when parked. The only other thing nice about air-ride is getting an on board compressor for emergency air for tubes, tires whatever...
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