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46HudsonPU
09-08-2005, 06:15 AM
Am assisting a person overseas (Germany) who is trying to register/title their 1947 Hudson Pickup...

One of the questions that need to be answered, I can find no information on -

What is the maximum front and maximum rear mass? (i.e., What is the maximum front and maximum rear weight?)

Haven't found the answer in either the Owner's manual, Mechanical Procedure Manual, or even sales literature... Any ideas?

hudsontech
09-08-2005, 06:25 AM
From a 1947 Hudson weight sheet in my General Information Handbook the weights are - 1605 lbs front, 1575 lbs rear - total 3180 lbs. License weight (with gas, oil, water, bumper, spare wheel, tire, tube) was 3110 and the shipping weight (w/o gas, oil water) was 3080.

Maximum payload - Cab, gas, oil water, tire - 128" wb 2878 lbs.
Max loaded weight - 128" wb - 4923 lbs.

Hudsonly,
Alex Burr

46HudsonPU
09-08-2005, 06:49 AM
Thanks Alex. Does it happen to have the maximum load broken down front/rear? - Usually, this type of breakout is only done on the larger, commercial trucks...

hudsontech
09-08-2005, 12:16 PM
No break down max load front/rear - only no-load weights. Basically the 128" wb model was rated at 3/4 ton - so you can safely carry 1500 pounds in the bed. Tho, given the way things were done back then, probably can carry more.
I had a 1964 International C-1100 - meaning a 1/2 ton body on a 3/4 ton chassis. I regularly lugged fire wood out of the woods with it with the body full (8' x 4' x 4') plus a bit more loaded up next to side rails I put on top of the box. You got to know I was a tad over 1500 pounds.
Those older models weren't like today - today when they say 1/2 ton - they mean 1/2 ton. Much more you may overstress something. The older trucks, say, mid-60's or so back 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, etc was used as a model reference. Many, many were loaded way over the rating and walked away with it. Just put heavier tires (ie, 8 or 10 ply instead of 4 or 6) on the back to carry the load is all we used to do. Ok, so we broke a spring now and again, but......................

Glad to be of help.

Hudsonly,
Alex B

Uncle Josh
09-08-2005, 01:02 PM
We had a 35 Ford 1 1/2 ton. Hauled rip-rap rocks for the Sacandaga. 6x8x2 ft, way over 10 tons. Hauled 17 ft logs and Grandpa and I had to sit on the front fenders coming out of the woods so Dad could steer it.

hudsontech
09-08-2005, 02:05 PM
We had a 35 Ford 1 1/2 ton. Hauled rip-rap rocks for the Sacandaga. 6x8x2 ft, way over 10 tons. Hauled 17 ft logs and Grandpa and I had to sit on the front fenders coming out of the woods so Dad could steer it.

Yep - fellow in my class in high school back in the 50's had a 1947 Ford ton-and-a-halfer that came from the Ford factory. His Dad bought it around 1951, 1952. Ford used to haul engine blocks around the factory with it - he had a photo showing something like 12 or 14 engine blocks on pallets stacked up on the thing. Had extra heavy duty springs in the back. Flat-head engine.
You just didn't go very fast with those heavy loads is all.

Hudsonly,
Alex B

Fred
09-08-2005, 02:56 PM
Hey fellows, the guy wants to register the truck in Germany. That means for every extra kilogram he probably has to pay an extra 100 marks. Give him minimum weights, not max load you can stuff into the thing.
Fred

boozer
09-08-2005, 03:33 PM
Amen, Fred at the rate these guys are going the poor guy won't be able to afford plates for his truck!!

46HudsonPU
09-08-2005, 07:40 PM
Gave him the info from Alex B., this morning... Haven't heard back, so I guess it is what was needed.