View Full Version : twin h power
frogman
01-26-2006, 06:09 AM
can any one tell me how many on average cars came with twin h power between 51-54 or how rare they where i know it was an acc but allmost evey car i have seen has it all help gladly taken
RL Chilton
01-26-2006, 08:00 AM
I'm not sure, but seriously doubt if anyone could provide an accurate number for you. Records wouldn't indicate whether the car was outfitted with the Twin-H, as you said, it was an option. Also, you wouldn't be able to determine how many cars have been retro-fitted for the last 50+ years. The Twin-H is certainly desirable, hence the many cars you have seen have it so equipped.
Russell
hudsondad
01-26-2006, 10:24 AM
I don't believe any information was kept as far as # of cars actually equiped from the factory with Twin H. I can share what we observed running thru junkyards the last 25 years. Most of the 52 and 53 hudson we ran across were single carb. Most of the 54 Hornets we've run across were Twin H. We seldom ran across a twin carb lower series in any year. This is certainly just our observation on a very small sampling of the number of cars built, and certainly these were all non-survivors.
Mike (WA)
01-26-2006, 10:57 AM
On the subject of the lower series Twin-H- is there a reliable way to identify which engine a manifold is for? I bought one some years back for my Hornet, but believe it is for a smaller engine (carbs have a smaller base size). If I could identify it, I'd sell it to someone who needs it, or trade for a 308 version.
bobbydamit
01-26-2006, 11:47 AM
Sounds like you have a Jet twin H. It was the only smaller version I know of. 212 engine I believe but could be wrong as I never owned one with an engine, I bought a shell once to drop in a 308 with twin H and used it for drag racing. Got lotsa trophies from that one.
TwinH
01-26-2006, 02:12 PM
Saw the twin~H 308's advertised it an early 60's JC Whitney catalog. Been a while
but if I recall they were priced at $22? and the ad showed the motor complete
with air cleaners... Anybody have access to some old Whitney catalogs?
harry54
01-26-2006, 02:27 PM
Twin H , Am I hearing this correctly ? A brand new 308 twin h for 22$ in J C whitney ?
RL Chilton
01-26-2006, 02:30 PM
Twin H , Am I hearing this correctly ? A brand new 308 twin h for 22$ in J C whitney ?
Harry54-
Yeah . . . in the early '60's . . . not now!
Russell
46HudsonPU
01-26-2006, 03:42 PM
If they were still available & the price was 10 times what the cost was then, they'd still have people lined-up (yup, I'd probably either in that line, or on my way home with 'mine')...
However, do not forget - At that time these were 8-10 year old 'surplus' engines that had been sitting in a warehouse for a long time & nobody wanted.
Even back then, I can imagine that shipping was probably as much or more than the cost of the engine.
NOTE: Text adjusted for the actual price of the engine(s)
hudsondad
01-26-2006, 03:47 PM
On the topic of difference between twin H manifolds, I know the Jet is different. I believe Bill A. explained the difference between the Wasp and Hornet manifolds was the carb bolt spacing or diameter of the carb bore or something like that. Manifold was physically the same. Did I remember this correctly?
50C8DAN
01-26-2006, 03:49 PM
I think it was $200?, not $22
TwinH
01-26-2006, 04:53 PM
Ya, thats what I meant. Thought I saw them for Two hundred twenty something. I'll try and find it again.
Aaron D. IL
01-26-2006, 06:13 PM
I think you could get a Twin H for the 262 engine in the later years. not sure tho. Would probably fit the 262 regardless
BJ__TN
01-26-2006, 07:59 PM
I saw that ad and then I lost it's location. I believe it listed 262 engines complete for $199.....308s were $299 for complete engine, from bellhousing to waterpump, intake and ehxhaust......Twin-H
Bob
hudsonkid
01-26-2006, 09:07 PM
Here's some stuff....
Twin H was not available in 51.
It was a "later" 52 option.
The 52 shop manual even has instructions how to convert the non twin h car to twin h, with the service pack.
The manifolds for any twin h, 262, and 308 should interchange.... it should even fit the 232, if I am correct....
I think the twin H was available on the 308 and the 262 only....
The 55 and 6 manifolds are different in that they have a cast in equalizer tube.
Manifolds, while they may be similar, the difference can also be port sizes....
As far as he JC whitny thing goes, wasn't this for "factory" refurbished engines, or good running engines? I don't think this was for a new Hudson factory engine....
but I could be wrong....
Hi-- When I bougft my '50 Super Six almost 20 years ago I found a 262 Twin-H (the carbs. are slightly smaller) and put it on my wore out 262.
. Later I rebuilt a 308 and put it in my car and used the 262 Twin-H . Later I installed a '56 Twin-H 308 manifold. I think the car ran better with the 262 Twin-H setup. It got better milage and ran better at the antique drag races. I am thinking of puting the 262 carbs. on my 308 manifold. I have elongated the mounting holes in the carb. base and they will fit on the 308 in. manifold.I will have to go thru the carbs. for they sat a long time on the shelf. Norm
bill a
01-26-2006, 10:29 PM
manifoldsd were the same with same casting part number, just the studs for the carbs were spaced diferently for the spaller wasp carb bolt pattern, this has been discussed before, jet manifold completely different
Billy K.TN.
01-26-2006, 10:31 PM
They had new crated 56 308 and 202 engins ready to run tha were left over. But you were to sign that you would not install the engines in an auto. I still have a old JC Whitney or Wausaukee catalog someplace. This was around 58 or 59. The 308 was $215.00 the 202 was$199.00. I'll take a dozen of each.
BJ__TN
01-27-2006, 08:47 AM
Yes engines were advertised as agricultural use engines, and were left over crate engines. Some may have been reconditioned but most were left over when the HUDSON motor car company ceased to exist.
vBulletin® v3.8.3, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.