Cars??????Who In The Hell Cares ??

[Ron P]

I sure do not. Why should I ? You younger folks looking to make a million on your old Hudson ? Good Luck. I like my 1929 Hudson and I have it because I do like it. I am not looking for some kinda big $$$$$$ to appear from no where. If I owned a Studebaker should I be mad ? Or a Essex, Teraplane, And heck..throw in a Duesenburg for Christ sake,.Just love what you have and get over this CARS crap...Thanks Ron, Just my Opinion :)

[50C8DAN]

Ron:

I sure am not looking to make anything on my Hudson. The thing I like about Cars is that Hudson finally gets some attention that it lacked all these years. Most folks don't have a clue what a Hudson is. Cars gives us some prestige at a car show or on the street. I am not sure anyone here is looking to make a killing on their favorite make, just a little notoriety!

[rambos_ride]

I have to agree somewhat - I've said it before and I'll say it again...the Cars phenomenon will have little to no effect on pricing of real Hudsons!

I bet there is not a single person on the forum that knows anyone or has heard of anyone buying a Hudson Coupe because it was an automobile featured in Cars. Now I'm not talking about Hudsons that were used or made for the movie; those in fact may have an "eccentric collector" value at some point - I'm talking about your 2 door coupe or your neighbors.

Now it could be argued that just the increase in Brand recognition could have some push upwards on valuations of Hudsons - there have been plenty of testimonials on the forum about folks recognizing a "Doc" out on the street from seeing the movie - where as before they might of thought it was a Merc.

Most kids these days are more into current NASCAR and Tuner Cars. 2 trains of thought - 1) most kids don't like anything old..period 2) they will never have the mechanical apptitude, guidance or money to buy and fix an old car.

Now maybe if someone built a "drifter" Hudson with a rice burner engine maybe the kids will pick it up!

The big bucks now in Hudsons and always (IMHO) is going to be those that have some type of DOCUMENTED historical significance - The true race built Hudsons, Prototypes, Convertibles and as always the Italias (wonder what that 1-of-a-kind x-161 is worth these days?) - what do all of these have in common? Rarity...low production numbers; one of a kind; 0r race history take your pick.

[hudsontech]

I sure do not. Why should I ? You younger folks looking to make a million on your old Hudson ? Good Luck. I like my 1929 Hudson and I have it because I do like it. I am not looking for some kinda big $$$$$$ to appear from no where. If I owned a Studebaker should I be mad ? Or a Essex, Teraplane, And heck..throw in a Duesenburg for Christ sake,.Just love what you have and get over this CARS crap...Thanks Ron, Just my Opinion :)

Uh oh - sounds like somebody had a bad hair day.

Husonly,
Alex B:mad:

[nhp1127]

I sure do not. Why should I ? You younger folks looking to make a million on your old Hudson ? Good Luck. I like my 1929 Hudson and I have it because I do like it. I am not looking for some kinda big $$$$$$ to appear from no where. If I owned a Studebaker should I be mad ? Or a Essex, Teraplane, And heck..throw in a Duesenburg for Christ sake,.Just love what you have and get over this CARS crap...Thanks Ron, Just my Opinion :)

Ron,

Sounds like you got started smoking cigarettes again... LOL. Have you seen the movie? I bet you haven't. Sorry but "Cars" is doing more for the Hudson marque than anything that has happened in years or possibly ever. As for making money on Hudsons? Why not? We like em. There are some long term Hudson owners that are sitting on a fortune and they know it. Are they crying? Thats better than farting around with cars like Gremlins and Pacers that no one likes but comic book store clerks. No one is going to get rich here but it is nice to know that the Hudsons are gaining notoriety. If you guys had stepdowns and drove them you would notice the additional comments that the movie has generated and then you might feel differently. It is a simple fact that this is good for Hudson and I find it exciting.

P.S. Cars, Cars, Cars, Cars!

[Ron P]

And NO...A BIG NO....I have not started smoking again..Thank GOD..Have you ever driven a 1929 Hudson ? I have had a 48 Chevy, 36 Ford, 95 Dodge Ram, 72 Buick Grand Sport, 66 Chevy Caprice (396) 55 Chevy BelAir hardtop. And on and on and on, I have never had a step dowm. After all I have heard around here about RUST ??? Should I get one ??? LOL.I have thought about a Hudson Pickup though.:)

[frankmn]

sounds like ron has a stepdown disliking

[50C8DAN]

Or a secret Stepdown envy?

[Ron P]

Or a secret Stepdown envy?
OK OK OK..LOL. there was a 54 RED ragtop from Washington that I fell for real bad that was at the Western Meet in Ontario Calif. My Bad :) That was so cool all them folks drove down here in there Hudsons from up there. They all had great cars.

[Dave53-7C]

I sure do not. Why should I ? You younger folks looking to make a million on your old Hudson ? Good Luck. I like my 1929 Hudson and I have it because I do like it. I am not looking for some kinda big $$$$$$ to appear from no where. If I owned a Studebaker should I be mad ? Or a Essex, Teraplane, And heck..throw in a Duesenburg for Christ sake,.Just love what you have and get over this CARS crap...Thanks Ron, Just my Opinion :)

Ron,

You're only got a few years on me. I don't consider myself old and neither should you. Let your hair down (hope you still have yours) and go see the movie. That aside, I love you your attitude. As long as you love what you have, that's all that matters. I bet you have a great dislike for judges at car shows. LOL

Dave

[essexcoupe3131]

you's guys think you have it so bad up there! you guys talk about whiether you are in it for the sport and motoring or making money, we are still in another erea where we live, if you mention the car name ESSEX they think you come from England!LOL

[Swasp76063]

I have to agree somewhat - I've said it before and I'll say it again...the Cars phenomenon will have little to no effect on pricing of real Hudsons!

I bet there is not a single person on the forum that knows anyone or has heard of anyone buying a Hudson Coupe because it was an automobile featured in Cars. Now I'm not talking about Hudsons that were used or made for the movie; those in fact may have an "eccentric collector" value at some point - I'm talking about your 2 door coupe or your neighbors.

Now it could be argued that just the increase in Brand recognition could have some push upwards on valuations of Hudsons - there have been plenty of testimonials on the forum about folks recognizing a "Doc" out on the street from seeing the movie - where as before they might of thought it was a Merc.

Most kids these days are more into current NASCAR and Tuner Cars. 2 trains of thought - 1) most kids don't like anything old..period 2) they will never have the mechanical apptitude, guidance or money to buy and fix an old car.

Now maybe if someone built a "drifter" Hudson with a rice burner engine maybe the kids will pick it up!

The big bucks now in Hudsons and always (IMHO) is going to be those that have some type of DOCUMENTED historical significance - The true race built Hudsons, Prototypes, Convertibles and as always the Italias (wonder what that 1-of-a-kind x-161 is worth these days?) - what do all of these have in common? Rarity...low production numbers; one of a kind; 0r race history take your pick.

I think you are somewhat wrong about what the kids like nowadays. My 20 year old son and 18 year old daughter's friends think that my Super Wasp sedan is the coolest thing on wheels. I bet that I have had 75-100 kids come over to the house just to see the car. I had a 63 Corvette split window that got less attention than the Hudson, at least from the kids. Now whether they would buy one is an different matter. But, for sure, they wouldn't mind being seen in one.
Bob

[MadMike128SL]

you's guys think you have it so bad up there! you guys talk about whiether you are in it for the sport and motoring or making money, we are still in another erea where we live, if you mention the car name ESSEX they think you come from England!LOL
If your from the land down under are you not a decendant of an English convict?:D
Did the Plymoth Fury go up in value after the movie Christine? I will admit I was surpised not to see any of those cars around restored or running over ****ters after the movie came out.
I saw more Hudsons after the Bruce Willis movie Hudson Hawk though.:p

[MadMike128SL]

I think you are somewhat wrong about what the kids like nowadays. My 20 year old son and 18 year old daughter's friends think that my Super Wasp sedan is the coolest thing on wheels. I bet that I have had 75-100 kids come over to the house just to see the car. I had a 63 Corvette split window that got less attention than the Hudson, at least from the kids. Now whether they would buy one is an different matter. But, for sure, they wouldn't mind being seen in one.
Bob
Some teenager called my brothers 90 Camaro "old school".......is it? Maybe because it is not rideing on some "20s'".:rolleyes:

[bobbydamit]

Check this one out. Of course' I'd still keep the 51 Blue look alike I have even at these prices.
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[nhp1127]

If your from the land down under are you not a decendant of an English convict?:D
Did the Plymoth Fury go up in value after the movie Christine? I will admit I was surpised not to see any of those cars around restored or running over ****ters after the movie came out.
I saw more Hudsons after the Bruce Willis movie Hudson Hawk though.:p

The answer to your question about the Plymouth Fury (the coupe like Christine) is yes they did go up... tremendously.
Still waiting for someone to sell a # 3 condition 51 to 53 Hornet Coupe for $15,000. I wonder why I can't find one? LOL

[51hornetA]

You wouldn't have been able to find one before the movie for that money either. I have been looking for one for 3 years and have yet to see one that wasn't a basket case for under 20K.

[66patrick66]

My kids are 12 and 15, and both of them fight over who gets the next old truck I acquire (the 15-yr-old has his already; in fact, it's his third!). Both love to drive the '71 Dodge D100 that is my oldest's. Both will have their opportunity to drive the finished Terraplane before it goes to the Nationals. Both like monster trucks and tuners, too, but both can identify nearly any post-war Hudson, Mopar, or Chevy --- pretty damn good for "none of the kids these days look at old cars", or something like that!

[464Saloon]

You have to remember where you are from. Your in the heartland of America. Come out to the coasts and you will see what they mean.

[66patrick66]

I've been to both coasts too many times - that's one reason I live where I do. I'll take "fly-over country" anyday.

[walt norem]

Some teenager called my brothers 90 Camaro "old school".......is it? Maybe because it is not rideing on some "20s'".:rolleyes:
i guess if it is as old as you are it is "old school". . .lol

[Martin200]

Who Cares?!? Anyone who loves orphan cars cares!! You Hudson guys are carrying the flag for the rest of us, in the hopes that Hollywood, who has never been friendly to us orphan types before now, will stand up and take notice. Our only exposure before now that I can remember was in The Muppet Movie where Fozz E. Bear (sp?) drives a bullet-nosed Studebaker, and I'm not real sure that it was intended to be complimentary. And if you remember the teen-angst-pseudo-'50's movie Mischief (can't remember actor's names here, but Kelly Preston was in it), the leather-jacketed hero remarks to the nerdy kid about his car: "A Studebaker?! That's worse than a DeSoto!!":mad: :mad: Never mind the Hawks, R-series Larks, Avantis, etc.
The point is, orphan cars have LONG been the automotive kick-puppies of Hollywood (which is not surprising since so much of the Big Three's money backs them) and it's about time we start to see this trend reversed. Hope it carries through for the rest of us.

[MadMike128SL]

Our only exposure before now that I can remember was in The Muppet Movie where Fozz E. Bear (sp?) drives a bullet-nosed Studebaker, and I'm not real sure that it was intended to be complimentary.
The Studebaker is a bears natural habitat............nothing else.:D Wakka Wakka Wakka

[Ron P]

Who Cares?!? Anyone who loves orphan cars cares!! You Hudson guys are carrying the flag for the rest of us, in the hopes that Hollywood, who has never been friendly to us orphan types before now, will stand up and take notice. Our only exposure before now that I can remember was in The Muppet Movie where Fozz E. Bear (sp?) drives a bullet-nosed Studebaker, and I'm not real sure that it was intended to be complimentary. And if you remember the teen-angst-pseudo-'50's movie Mischief (can't remember actor's names here, but Kelly Preston was in it), the leather-jacketed hero remarks to the nerdy kid about his car: "A Studebaker?! That's worse than a DeSoto!!":mad: :mad: Never mind the Hawks, R-series Larks, Avantis, etc.
The point is, orphan cars have LONG been the automotive kick-puppies of Hollywood (which is not surprising since so much of the Big Three's money backs them) and it's about time we start to see this trend reversed. Hope it carries through for the rest of us.
And Your Point Is ?????

[TOM B]

WHOA...grumpy old geezer.....No wonder kids are waiting fer the OLD FARTS to die off before they show their affection for Our Hudsons...

Turn off the lights at Halloween, put out the Doberman Pincer and run the little rapscallions off

[Geoff C., N.Z.]

LIke I've said before, there is no "Best" Hudson. The vast majority of people here have never heard of Hudson, Essex, or Terraplane, let alone Railton or Brough Superior. I love driving my '29 Hudson super six 7 passenger sedan. Then again, there's nothing quite like taking the '53 Hornet to town and letting the kids recognize something from "Cars. Or getting out in the '54 Jet Liner and watching the other motorists trying to work out what it is. (Humber, Holden, Vanguard, Honda, Hillman, ???) But I still have my favourite, the '28 Essex Coach. Done half a million miles, and trundles along as reliable as ever. Unfortunately there has been too much "factioning" in the club over the years. Let's accept each other for what we are - fellow members in a non-judging club. This is one of the greatest assets we have - we don't judge the cars, let's not judge each other either. And whatever your model of H.E.T car, show it proudly to the great unwashed and uneducated masses!
Geoff.

[jsrail]

LIke I've said before, there is no "Best" Hudson. The vast majority of people here have never heard of Hudson, Essex, or Terraplane, let alone Railton or Brough Superior. I love driving my '29 Hudson super six 7 passenger sedan. Then again, there's nothing quite like taking the '53 Hornet to town and letting the kids recognize something from "Cars. Or getting out in the '54 Jet Liner and watching the other motorists trying to work out what it is. (Humber, Holden, Vanguard, Honda, Hillman, ???) But I still have my favourite, the '28 Essex Coach. Done half a million miles, and trundles along as reliable as ever. Unfortunately there has been too much "factioning" in the club over the years. Let's accept each other for what we are - fellow members in a non-judging club. This is one of the greatest assets we have - we don't judge the cars, let's not judge each other either. And whatever your model of H.E.T car, show it proudly to the great unwashed and uneducated masses!

Geoff.

Amen Geoff!!!!

Jay

[shiraz_khan]

http://www.japaneseauctions.co.uk/forum
every body is kidding:p

[nhp1127]

LIke I've said before, there is no "Best" Hudson. The vast majority of people here have never heard of Hudson, Essex, or Terraplane, let alone Railton or Brough Superior. I love driving my '29 Hudson super six 7 passenger sedan. Then again, there's nothing quite like taking the '53 Hornet to town and letting the kids recognize something from "Cars. Or getting out in the '54 Jet Liner and watching the other motorists trying to work out what it is. (Humber, Holden, Vanguard, Honda, Hillman, ???) But I still have my favourite, the '28 Essex Coach. Done half a million miles, and trundles along as reliable as ever. Unfortunately there has been too much "factioning" in the club over the years. Let's accept each other for what we are - fellow members in a non-judging club. This is one of the greatest assets we have - we don't judge the cars, let's not judge each other either. And whatever your model of H.E.T car, show it proudly to the great unwashed and uneducated masses!
Geoff.

Everyone should be entitled to an opinion on cars and that's one of the things that makes this forum interesting. We all have our preferences but that doesn't mean we don't appreciate another model (just like women!). Personally, I wouldn't care if the Club judged cars or not.
As has been discussed before here, one the only ways to expand HET to a broader base is to officially target larger mixed make meets and endorse (not force) the local chapter presence to attend. I really enjoy driving my Hudsons and I would think HET members would want to show off their cars to the public and not just each other.
Also, I don't see why they are two Southern California Chapters (So Cal and Inland Empire). It should be treated like a business. Combine them into a larger, more powerful local chapter that can take advantage of economies of scale and increased resources. Makes absolutely no sense to have two redundant chapters sitting right next to each other. Geographically, there is no excuse. It should make little to no difference for anyones travel. Combining the chapters would make our gatherings larger, more entertaining, and allow us to interact with more Hudson members. It would also help vendors and members that deal in the Hudson hobby and help those seeking Hudson resources. Combine both newsletters, etc, etc.

Ok, time for breakfast.....

[dynolou]

I agree that we need to attract more younger members,whether their cars are stock or modified. As for your proposed merger of Cal. chapters, I have proposed splitting the NorthWest Chapter into two units with a President and two Vice presidents. We have tried holding two meets at Oregon/Washington locals the same weekend and had large turnouts, far more than at one single meet held any where. Our area is too large for all to be able to attend every meet. As for Hudsons for sale; a chapter member with a serious illness has a 53 Super Wasp brogham for sale, it has been stored inside , was painted about 10 years ago ,runs and drives, need interior finished -door panels and carpetsonly. It has 308 Twin H , stick. Brakes and master cylinder just done. Needs some chrome/ stainless installed. Was offered at $9500, no takers that I know of. NorthWest Chapter Pres. Lou Cote

[Martin200]

WHOA...grumpy old geezer.....No wonder kids are waiting fer the OLD FARTS to die off before they show their affection for Our Hudsons...

Turn off the lights at Halloween, put out the Doberman Pincer and run the little rapscallions off

I second that a trillionfold!!! The POINT is: Exposure, exposure, exposure!! You sit there and wonder why we care? I DO get sick of constantly answering questions about what it is (read the damn script on the fender) and who made it (read the damn plate on the firewall). I blame this infinite ignorance on: 1) our public 'schrool' system where our 'teachers' and 'professors' (who are little more than Marxist indoctrinates) believe the 1950's were only the bad old days of Jim Crow laws, unliberated June Cleaver-type housewives, and gas-guzzling dinosaurs that they feel should all be scrunched to make new Toyota Hybrids, and this is what they fill our kids' Young Skulls Full of Mush with; and 2) the influence of Hollywood and the Mass Media who teach people that the only cars that existed (or mattered) before 1990 were 1955-56-57 Chevys and Ford Mustangs. If you think all we care about is increasing the resale value of our Hudsons and other orphans, you could not possibly be more wrong. The POINT is, we are finally getting the POSITIVE recognition we deserve and making the general public aware that there is more to automotive history than Genital Morons, Frod and Crustler. THAT is why "Cars" is such a big deal to us. It carries the flag not just for Hudson, but for the rest of us orphan-lovers as well.
If you can't understand that point, please sell your orphan car to those of us who give a tinker's damn and get yourself a 1955-56-57 Shove-it or a Frod Rustdung like the rest of the fashion fascists.(:mad: :mad: :mad: X infinity)
Breathes there a man with soul so dead, who never to himself hath said: "My marque is the greatest in all the land!"? Evidently so.

[Geoff C., N.Z.]

Well put! Please correct me if my memory is deficient, but having seen "Cars", and reflecting on same, was the Hudson the only one that was actually identified by the actual brand name? I know great prominence was given to the Hudson and Hornet badges on Doc Hudson, but from my recollection all the other cars were know by personal names only like "Stanley," "Sally" etc.:confused:
Geoff.

[Ron P]

Well put! Please correct me if my memory is deficient, but having seen "Cars", and reflecting on same, was the Hudson the only one that was actually identified by the actual brand name? I know great prominence was given to the Hudson and Hornet badges on Doc Hudson, but from my recollection all the other cars were know by personal names only like "Stanley," "Sally" etc.:confused:
Geoff.
The movie was made in Hollyweird California about 300 miles south of San Fransisco and about 3000 miles from Kerry & Kennedy country. Nuff said ? LOL. Take care, Ron :)

[52 kahuna]

Thank God the movie was made in California. If it had been made in Kennedy country the storyline would have been about an dead girl in an old car at the bottom of a lake, and a politician hiding behind daddy's money!

[BJ__TN]

Well put! Please correct me if my memory is deficient, but having seen "Cars", and reflecting on same, was the Hudson the only one that was actually identified by the actual brand name? I know great prominence was given to the Hudson and Hornet badges on Doc Hudson, but from my recollection all the other cars were know by personal names only like "Stanley," "Sally" etc.:confused:
Geoff.


Geoff, I believe there was 2 times that the name Ferarri was mentioned.
( But it was so quick that you really had to be listening for it!)
Bob

[nhp1127]

The movie was made in Hollyweird California about 300 miles south of San Fransisco and about 3000 miles from Kerry & Kennedy country. Nuff said ? LOL. Take care, Ron :)

Ron,

I live less than 30 minutes from you. Tell you what, I'll pick you and your wife up in my 51 Hornet Coupe (no smoking in it) and take you both to see the movie. My treat. Tell me you don't like it after you have seen it and I'll throw in a case of beer. If you do like it, you wash my car and publicly admit here on the forum that you were wrong to slander our fearless leader, Doc Hudson. Also, PIXAR is in N.Cal, the land of fruits and nuts!

[hudsontech]

Thank God the movie was made in California. If it had been made in Kennedy country the storyline would have been about an dead girl in an old car at the bottom of a lake, and a politician hiding behind daddy's money!

HEY - Even Stephen King is entitled to make a living!!!!! LOL And if we run out of lakes to dump old cars and victims in, we got a bunch of water filled quarry's here in New England. hehehehehe Besides it serves to scare the bejesus out of the touristas.

Hudsonly,
Alex B

[Martin200]

Well put! Please correct me if my memory is deficient, but having seen "Cars", and reflecting on same, was the Hudson the only one that was actually identified by the actual brand name? I know great prominence was given to the Hudson and Hornet badges on Doc Hudson, but from my recollection all the other cars were know by personal names only like "Stanley," "Sally" etc.:confused:
Geoff.
Sally is supposed to be a Porsche (911 I think); this is remarked upon twice in the movie: the first time is in the courtroom when Lightning sees her for the first time (and falls radiator-over-tailpipe for her), commenting with a long, low "Holy Porsche!!"; the second time, somewhat later in the movie, as Sally ends a conversation with Lightning and turns to go back into the Cozy Cone, the camera zooms in on her rear end and we see the Porsche script as well as the "little pinstriping tattoo back there" that Lightning wryly comments upon (the tattoo, not the script, being the focus here).
However, you are right that HUDSON is the only marque that was repeated with any great frequency. Only us car buffs or those who read extensive reviews know that Luigi is supposed to be a Fiat 500, that Strip "The King" Weathers is supposed to be a Plymouth Road Runner Superbird, that Ramone is supposed to be a '59 Chevy, the Sheriff is supposed to be a '49 Merc, etc. These facts are never mentioned in the movie and Doc Hudson is the only other vehicle (besides Mack) in the movie whose marque is also his personal name. SIGNIFICANT. Like I said--I hope this is the beginning of a turnaround in Hollywood and other influences upon the nation's "fashion consciousness." You Hudson guys are holding the Orphan Banner high for the rest of us; this movie can only be a good thing. Please don't let our banner fall.

[Geoff C., N.Z.]

Right, I forgot about Mack. I had better see it again, to rtefresh my memory. I took my two grand-daughters to see it, and they thought it was great, particularly having a car in it like Grandad's!
Geoff.

[jsrail]

I seriously doubt the movie was designed specifically for Hudsons. It is great that Hudsons are getting much needed attention but lets be realistic.....McQueen and Tow Mater are more predominate in the marketing and toys than the Doc Hudson (which Doc is more prominate than many of the other characters) car. You couldn't have every car make in every character's name or it would sound rediculous. Doc Hudson has a good ring to it, but I don't think you can read anymore into it than that. Don't you think "McQueen" may have been a respectful dedication to Steve McQueen?

And "hollywood" as well as all the other stuff on TV and in the Movies is only what the majority of people want. You may not watch everything, but plenty of other people are, or they wouldn't produce it.

I am glad the movie is helping us in recognition and maybe some increases in value. I really hope it may help to get more people interested in the Club as well.

Jay

[nhp1127]

I seriously doubt the movie was designed specifically for Hudsons. It is great that Hudsons are getting much needed attention but lets be realistic.....McQueen and Tow Mater are more predominate in the marketing and toys than the Doc Hudson (which Doc is more prominate than many of the other characters) car. You couldn't have every car make in every character's name or it would sound rediculous. Doc Hudson has a good ring to it, but I don't think you can read anymore into it than that. Don't you think "McQueen" may have been a respectful dedication to Steve McQueen?

And "hollywood" as well as all the other stuff on TV and in the Movies is only what the majority of people want. You may not watch everything, but plenty of other people are, or they wouldn't produce it.

I am glad the movie is helping us in recognition and maybe some increases in value. I really hope it may help to get more people interested in the Club as well.

Jay

When I was at Toys R Us amonth or so ago, I saw them open a brand new box of the Hot Wheel toys. There were only two Doc Hudsons per box out of about 15 to 20. The rest were McQueen and Tater's.
The great thing about this movie is the focus on the racing history of Hudson and the great portrayal of the Hornet by a huge movie icon, Paul Newman. The movie was not all about Hudson and no one believes that but it certainly and literally laid tribute to Hudson. The tribute given in a block buster movie is what is incredible.

[jsrail]

Agreed

Jay